As much as I love my AR's, with an 80 year old dad who already has a Glock 17, I'd seriously consider the Ruger PC-9, and install the Glock magazine adapter. and buy him some 33 round 9mm Glock mags that both could use.ScottDLS wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:15 amThat's very interesting. My dad (80) was just asking me about getting an AR platform rifle for HD. He has a Glock 17 currently, but lives in Dallas where he is getting concerned with multiple intruder home invasion scenario (perhaps "mostly peaceful" protesters). He's in pretty good shape and would have no issue with recoil/weight/stance...and Mom shot an AR at their friend's ranch in OK and was very accurate. I think a SBR would be nice, but the new M4 "style" AR carbines at 16" really are pretty easy to handle. Add a red dot sight and flashlight, like you suggested....and I think I'm going to build him one. We have a new gun store near me that sells stripped lowers and he can come buy the serialized part, then I'll order all the rest online and build...Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:19 pm I would lean toward an AR pistol or SBR in either a pistol caliber or .223/5.56. 30 rds, little to no recoil, light weight, mounted flashlight, red-dot sight or iron sights and a green laser. I'm not a fan of lasers, but indoor, especially at night, it might be just what he needs. (A Form 1 SBR "build" doesn't take long for approval. It could be a pistol until paperwork is approved.)
Chas.
One item I was thinking about for an AR for HD is a silencer (suppressor). The noise from an AR is pretty horrendous without hearing protection. Maybe in that case, with the length of the silencer, I might lean toward a SBR. Two stamps and a year wait....
I am using the Ruger 9mm carbines at a youth organization where I volunteer and these carbines are sturdy guns that tame the modest recoil quite well. Even without the buffer & recoil spring of the AR, these carbines' recoil has been negligible, and I'm dealing with youngish kids who get their first taste of centerfire with these 9mm carbines. These newbie kids are definitely subject to being recoil aware. (In the abstract, buying an AR for home defense is always high on my list, but these carbines also have a place. Maybe buy the PC-9 today while you build the SBR and wait for ATF.)