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cw3van wrote:Trained police in the academy for 6 years tried to teach not the best thing but in Texas just the way it is not going to change

Well, if it helps, I was training them in just the opposite direction. This also might help the OP understand too. I would teach them that if they put their forearm on their pistol butt, it provided a nice rest, looked a lot less threatening than many other places, and helped protect their firearm from a gun grab without making it obvious. It is both a useful position and restful at the same time.