I disagree with Pawpaw about the legal effect of the no guns allowed sing. It is expressing the owner's wishes that no one bring a gun inside the premises. The law under 30.05 is that you are trespassing if you enter without the effective consent of the owner. Clearly, if you enter carrying a gun, you did not have the effective consent in that case.apostate wrote:I'm still confused. For the purpose of trespassing, what's the legal difference between a "No Soliciting" sign and a "No Guns" sign?
And yes, I am ignoring for academic discussion the effect of 30.06 and other exemptions.
The difference between this and a no soliciting sign is very little, but could be significant in one aspect. I can solicit by knocking on the door and not entering the building. In this case, I am not trespassing despite the owner's wishes. If I entered the building to solicit, I could be charged with criminal trespass also, for the same reason as above.
And yes, this would legally hold true to the No Fords allowed parking lot and my parking my F150 there also.
There is a difference between what you see in the real world and what the exact wording of the law allows. I cannot recall the last time I saw a No Fords sign (though I regularly see no motorcycle signs and do see those vehicles towed - the owner does not get arrested because the towtruck company is more interested in the money than jail). I also don't see people arrested in general for trespass just for ignoring a sign. Most of the time the cops try to avoid the arrest by asking the guy to leave instead, but that is different from what the law allows. I think it comes under the heading of the discretion allowed the officer as opposed to legal requirements though.