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Charles stated:

"While HPD is technically correct in that an arrest can be made and the defendant will have to go to court to benefit from the new presumption, to make an arrest under those circumstances is wrong. Why put a person through the system, if you know they are going to be acquitted? The only answer is the hope that the harassment value will keep people from carrying."

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Bingo...

Nail on the head...

Give that man a cigar...

I've been waiting for someone else to say it...Thanks Chas...

Frustrating isn't it???

I don't think Chuck Rosenthal really buys into it, but somebody must have really tightened the screws on him to come out publically on this issue...

I just got this gut feeling that obviously something or somebody else is pulling the strings on this thing...

orc4hire wrote:http://www.godofwar.com/ezekial.wav

Interesting passage...

I agree with you...I'm still kinda confused everytime I check on this thread...

I even talked to Chuck Rosenthal about it...

I have some mixed feelings about that conversation...And am still not sure why he thinks this way...

[quote="orc4hire]Let a few cops get sued, a few prosecutors disbarred and/or sent up on criminal charges and they might be a little less frisky in the future.

But the most important thing to remember is that one requirement is that the gun be concealed. If the cop doesn't know it's there, he can't arrest you for carrying it. Keep it hidden and do not volunteer any information. If the HPD choses to operate outside the law, as a criminal gang, they deserve no more respect or cooperation than any other criminals.[/quote]

I would almost say I fall on this side of the discussion...

But then again if this was a reality, then where does that leave us???

Non-CHL'ers running around with firearms in their vehicles believing its ok to do so because there is this law that say they can, but the enforcement side of the coin says "no"???

And no duty to inform L.E., like we are required to do per the law???

And a DA who is determined to make prosecutions against those who mis-interpret the law...

I like Chuck, and I think he does a great job; but I do agree, he has definitely shot himself in the foot with the RKBA community in this area...

But you have to really dig deep inside yourself to truely understand that he may be right about this...I'm sure to catch some heat about this comment, and thats ok...Its just a gut feeling I have, that reinforces my idea that this still may not have been a good law to implement...

But the bottom line of this is that this law does not effect me, it has created some good discussion, I'm either confused, or just don't understand where the good and the bad side of this is just yet...

I don't know if any of you have noticed...But PDO's Texas page has been updated...For years we had a "NO" in the "peaceable journey" box at the top of the page...

It is now a "YES"...

Not that its that big a deal...It doesn't effect me...

one eyed fatman wrote:My CHL takes all the guesswork out of traveling laws.

+1, ditto, right-on...

But some day I might dissagree with you, and not really listen to what you say...

Is that ok??? Just thought I wold get that straightened out...

No offence intended...

I think I'll stick around here from now on...

I could only make it down about half of those pages over there before I got a headache...

They probably wouldn't like me over there anyway...

Not that I am being critical...No! Not you Steve!...

Anyway...

Ever notice that you don't hear too much from people who live in States like Vermont...And Alaska (well maybe more from Alaska)...

When issues and questions come up like this???

I never seen anyone who claims to be from, at least Vermont, ever participate in any of these discussions...Not that it would matter...

That just kinda sticks out in my mind right now...

More confusion...ambiguity...

It doesn't effect most of us here in this forum, but to Joe Q. Public...

OH MY GOD THERE'S TOO MANY GUNS OUT THERE!!! mentality...