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by stevie_d_64
Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: HB 1815 bill analysis
Replies: 29
Views: 9138

seamusTX wrote:Late addition: I just realized, while discussing this law in another thread, that it applies to all licensed drivers -- 16 year olds.

- Jim
Interesting!

But other provisions in the law are supposed to handle that issue, right???
by stevie_d_64
Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:54 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: HB 1815 bill analysis
Replies: 29
Views: 9138

Re: HB 1815 bill analysis

seamusTX wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:UCW makes no mention of the loaded condition of the weapon, or whether it is cased or not. That means a gun in unloaded condition or cased would still be chargeble under UCW, if it meets the other elements.
We've discussed this quite a while back, and you more or less convinced me of the opposite.

If someone who is not a CHL holder goes to a gun store and buys a pistol, how does he legally get from the counter to his vehicle? What if he takes the bus or walks home?

Obviously this is not a problem in practical terms. Police officers do not sit in front of gun stores and arrest buyers.

- Jim
I guess I'll stretch it and say that I believe the whole concept of charging someone of UCW is un-Constitutional...

If I am not engaged in criminal activity, how can the act of exercising your right to purchase a product, and transport such product be illegal at any point in the equation???

Some entities believe it is, regardless of your intent, or status (law-abiding citizen, or convicted criminal)...

All I know is that I have a CHL, and that hoop I jumped through makes me above the law, and my sister a criminal because she doesn't have that piece of plastic???

Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill...

But as soon as some big DA tells us their take on this, I am keeping my guard up...
by stevie_d_64
Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:48 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: HB 1815 bill analysis
Replies: 29
Views: 9138

I'm just busting at the seams to see what Chuck Rosenthal says about this...

Its either going to go away, or the risk of being arrested for UCW still exists in Harris County...

If it remains concealed for non-CHL's (and CHL's) while in a vehicle, one group being under no requirement to notify, and the other required by law, with penalties for not informing...

I see the question still being how do you answer (if you are a non-CHL) if the question is presented???

"Yes, officer, I have a firearm concealed in the console, or on my person, in this vehicle...Per HB1815 which was signed into law recently..."

Of course if the person avoids the question, or lies about the presense of a firearm, the results would probably be clear...

I still see plenty of wiggle room for big city and county DA's to busts chops on this...

I'm not trying to be a negative nancy on this at all...I'm just trying to see if the DA's are going to back off this, this time...

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