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I'm not knocking ANYone's choice of safes/brands here -- unlike some safe "experts" often do in gun forums (unless you have one of their "superior" safes of course). I'm just making an observation...

I have to admit that I don't understand a serious (higher-end with great protection/build-quality) safe having such a heavy door, heavy enough to cause the safe to tip forward...makes it sound like the body of such a safe is too lightweight then (non-serious, if you will).

Also, unless such a safe -- with a serious/heavy door -- is built-in somehow with protection (limit access to a criminal) to the other 3 sides AND the top, a criminal would just go through the sides/top. Yes, I realize that safes are built with the strongest part being the front (door) and the weakest being the other sides/top, but unless you limit someone's access to a safe to the front ONLY, that serious door isn't a whole lot of value.

In my case, my 1000-pound Liberty 25 doesn't tip forward when I open the door all the way. I wouldn't think better safes would, either.

And since I am a renter, I can't bolt it down NOR build an enclosure around it to limit access to the front (door) only...had I a house, I sure would.

For the best protection, I recommend you bolt it down AND build an enclosure for your safes...even the top-of-the-line models like the Ft. Knox Yeager series...or in my case, the Liberty Presidential series.

But I think that ANY brand of safe would greatly benefit from an enclosure around it (preferably masonry) since the front/door is the strongest side.

-- John D.

P.S. I am talking about an attack by non-professional thieves, not a professional safe-cracker who could get into it from the front fairly easily without resorting to brute-force attacks on the sides/top as would your average ignorant low-life.

ScubaSigGuy,

stevie_d_64 gave some excellent info!


Additionally, you might want to check out this thread on safes on another forum:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/sho ... p?t=237280

...there are similar threads elsewhere re: safes...the topic often comes up in gun forums.

-- John D.