The problem, however, is that the penalty will only apply to signage that has been left up. It will not pose any penalty to anyone who gives verbal warning.ScooterSissy wrote:
That underlined part is where they would be stuck. One of the communications described in 30.06 is verbal.
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- Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:09 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to report improper §30.06 signs
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Re: How to report improper §30.06 signs
- Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:24 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to report improper §30.06 signs
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Re: How to report improper §30.06 signs
I doubt there would be that many people wanting to open carry (me included), but yes, I could see somewhere like the DMA verbally warning every person open carrying, or every person who gets wanded at the AAC when going to a concert/circus.jimlongley wrote:Do they verbally warn every person that enters?TexasCajun wrote:Verbal notice wouldn't be enforceable either. The whole point of SB273 was to prohibit gov'ts from attempting to prohibit lawful carry in gov't owned/leased buildings that don't contain jails or courts.Rrash wrote:Another scenario we could likely see from the guilty cities is to remove signage, but still verbally give notice. While it may not happen to concealed carriers unless going through a metal detector, I would think it will happen often to everyone that chooses to open carry. I'm not really sure if there is a way to defend against it. Charles, would this be something that might be addressed in 2017?
Carry a voice recorder.
I always record anything I suspect could be used for/against me, including if a boss calls me into his office. At the very least, I can go back and make sure I heard him correctly.
- Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:22 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to report improper §30.06 signs
- Replies: 258
- Views: 116270
Re: How to report improper §30.06 signs
I understand verbal notice isn't enforceable, but there is nothing in SB273 that prohibits a gov't from attempting to prohibit lawful carry by giving verbal warnings. It simply says they can't post signs. If you are asked to leave and even regardless of whether or not you are breaking any laws, couldn't they claim you are trespassing? My point is that I could see some government owned properties trying to intimidate and abuse by giving a verbal warning, even calling police and disarming the CHL holder, threatening arrest, etc., whether lawful or not.TexasCajun wrote:Verbal notice wouldn't be enforceable either. The whole point of SB273 was to prohibit gov'ts from attempting to prohibit lawful carry in gov't owned/leased buildings that don't contain jails or courts.Rrash wrote:Another scenario we could likely see from the guilty cities is to remove signage, but still verbally give notice. While it may not happen to concealed carriers unless going through a metal detector, I would think it will happen often to everyone that chooses to open carry. I'm not really sure if there is a way to defend against it. Charles, would this be something that might be addressed in 2017?
- Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:40 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to report improper §30.06 signs
- Replies: 258
- Views: 116270
Re: How to report improper §30.06 signs
Another scenario we could likely see from the guilty cities is to remove signage, but still verbally give notice. While it may not happen to concealed carriers unless going through a metal detector, I would think it will happen often to everyone that chooses to open carry. I'm not really sure if there is a way to defend against it. Charles, would this be something that might be addressed in 2017?
- Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:36 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to report improper §30.06 signs
- Replies: 258
- Views: 116270
Re: How to report improper §30.06 signs
Will this at some point challenge other gun free zone issues? For example, the Fort Worth Museum of Science and History claims to be an educational facility. I believe the Dallas Zoo does as well, or at least they did. Assuming they leave up 30.06 signs after Sept 1, will submitting a letter to the AG force them to prove that their building is in fact an educational facility, or will it be another underhanded way they can keep law abiding citizens unarmed?Charles L. Cotton wrote:I forgot to mention that I would like someone to photograph the 30.06 sign at the Fort Worth Zoo at some point after Sept. 1st. I'll need them to fill out the affidavit, but I'll send the notice letter to the city of Fort Worth and I'll file the AG complaint when Fort Worth calls former Rep. Lon Burnam and he tells them not to take the sign down. Burnam lost his primary bid, but last session he flat out lied about the Zoo owning the property and he treated Rep. Guillen like a dog in the process. I had the contract in my hand and knew he was lying.
Yeah, this is just a little payback and man is it going to be fun!!
Chas.