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by Vol Texan
Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:33 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
Replies: 440
Views: 73099

Re: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........

TXBO wrote:
Abraham wrote:We have a handful of militants OC types here, most of them new to the board stirring the OC pot.
They unfailingly reject the very reasonable, thoughtful responses in regard to OC.
They're like constantly complaining, colicky babies
From this point on, I plan to ignore their militant OC posts and hope others do to.
Perhaps, eventually they'll catch on that this forum, by and large rejects their militancy.
Perhaps, (I've never searched) there other forums that welcome their views.
Forums without opposing views are pretty boring.
True...I agree and disagree with the OP and all 245 replies so far! :biggrinjester:
by Vol Texan
Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:05 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
Replies: 440
Views: 73099

Re: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........

Javier730 wrote:
Taypo wrote:
gljjt wrote:
Javier730 wrote:
gljjt wrote:
gljjt wrote:
Javier730 wrote:
gljjt wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:
Double Naught Spy wrote:For those of you who think that when a business opens their private property doors to the public that they lose some of their private property rights, you are 100% correct.

You are also 100% wrong in thinking that they lose control over the gun issue, however. It is all stipulated in the law. How hard is that to understand? It isn't you who is being discriminated against, but your gun. Your gun has no rights and your right to carry a gun in somebody else's business stops at the door if that is what they wish.

A business loses certain rights being open to the public and the public loses certain rights when going onto the property of another individual or entity.
Explain what rights are lost.
Free speech. Bad mouth a business on their property and see what happens. Continually have vocal outbursts in a movie theater and see what happens. Preach in mall and see what happens.
You do not lose your right to free speech. The businesses have the right to kick you out is what happens. You can be asked to leave and you can go on bad mouthing or preaching.
You are playing with semantics. No you haven't lost your true free speech rights, but you don't have the same "rights" on private property that you have on your property or most public property.
By your argument, if the government restricts our firearms to our own homes, we don't lose our 2nd amendment rights, after all you can always go ho me!
There is a big difference between what the government restricts and what businesses restrict on their property. You are playing with semantics.
Nope. You are missing the point. The point is Constitutionally defined freedoms are not absolute.
The right to OC in Whataburger is Constitutionally defined?
Yeah, the 28th amendment. "rlol"
:deadhorse:

Guys...the constitution limits the power of GOVERNMENT. It is supposed to keep the government from blocking our freedom of speech, our freedom of religion, etc.

The constitution was not written to limit the power of PEOPLE or BUSINESSES. If Whataburger asks you to leave, just because they say so, then just get over it. They can stop you from preaching in their restaurant, without infringing on your right of free speech. They can stop you from open carrying, without infringing on your right to keep and bear arms. They are not bound to the same standards as the government to protect anybody's fragile ego.

Unlike the Social Justice Warriors who sue people constantly to make sure they are not excluded, we should take the higher ground, and be good ambassadors of the 2nd Amendment. Just leave if they ask you to do so. Or cover it up, and it becomes a non-issue.

Why is it that we beat each other up on semantics here on this message board? Aren't we better than that?

:deadhorse:

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