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LuvtheU.S. wrote:Mr. Texan you are correct It was my first post, I read and picked up a great deal of very good info from many of you, before I joined this forum. The reason I joined was to participate in the discussions. The reason I picked that particular thread was because I know a little about the atmosphere on school campus's and felt I could contribute. I stated my reasons. Concerning the data that you mentioned so far as I know no CHL holder on any school campus anywhere has thwarted a catastrophe. I did not call anyone a simpleton I said life must be simple if you believe that you are right and I am wrong because that's the way you see it. When Mr. Jmra said hallways with rivers of blood running down them and people were wrong then and now. I found that sarcastic and arrogant.

JMRA was only quoting an oft-repeated cry that we hear all too often. It was not directed toward you, nor is it sarcastic, since it is said so often here, and by the antis.

Rivers of blood is what the anti-gunners claim will happen everywhere that gun laws are 'relaxed' - if not an exact quote, then definitely implied far too often. When CHL was allowed, this was the prophesy here in Texas, and we proved them wrong. Same thing in Illinois, but the crime rate in Chicago has gone DOWN since the CHL law was passed.

LuvtheU.S. wrote:Life for some must be very simple when they think they are correct with no room for doubt on any issue.

You began this discussion (I believe your first post ever to this forum) with a reasonable posting, based on your intuition. You have been presented with actual data by other members, and you sum up your position by assuming we are simpletons. I suppose you can have your opinion, but I think your latest tactic implies that you must have some of the same qualities you're assigning to us. Perhaps VMI's post above applies here?

Don't misinterpret 20 years of actual data, plus the reasonings of people here who do carry everywhere, all the time, as a simplistic argument. We are not dismissing your opinions, rather we are trying to show you a different perspective, backed by data. But now, since you have decided to come off as dismissive of our perspective, by calling us simpletons, how do you expect us to respond?

Welcome to the forum, adrbe. Glad to have you aboard!

adrbe wrote:Every district city is different. The decision should be left up to the district city and, by extension, the people within that district city . If it doesn't make sense for your district city , that's fine, but that's no justification to compel other districts cities, with different circumstances, to behave as yours does.

Imagine changing the words as I did above, substituting cities for districts. That's the exact reason we have preemption (explained well by T.A.M. here)

I, for one, don't want the individual districts to have preemption. After all, they are government-owned. If a private school wants to say 'no', then that's their choice, but the government employees of the government schools within the state of Texas should adhere to Texas law, and not make it up as they wish for their own situation.

But in Pakistan, not Texas...

http://www.12newsnow.com/story/28001879 ... shoot-guns

From the article:

Over the past two weeks, the provincial government has launched firearms training workshops for teachers.

Asked by The Associated Press whether she is confident enough to kill a terrorist at her school, 37-year-old teacher Shabnam Tabinda said, "Yes. Whoever kills innocents, God willing, I will shoot them.”

The hope is that the teachers could, at the very least, slow potential attackers until police arrive, government officials told ABC News.