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Skiprr wrote:

longhorn_92 wrote:Any word yet about your POF???

Thanks for remembering! I called POF after Thanksgiving, and they confirmed that my April order was the first in line of five outstanding orders for the same FFL. They were extremely friendly and helpful. Their best estimate at the time was an additional three to five months. I'm thinking March or April...so only a year after the order was placed.

After that wait, I'm fully expecting this guy to be the heirloom EBR of my collection. Pics and range report as soon as possible.

And after all this time (and the fact that I haven't been able to spend much time on the Forum the past few months) I forgot to pull out the confetti and post that my POF finally arrived! I picked it up last week, but it arrived at the FFL the week before. So right at 17 months from the order date until the rifle shipped. Woo hoo!

I have no time to get it to the range this week, but that's early on the agenda for the week of the 25th. I'll take some photos soon of the stock rifle, just as it shipped from POF. After mounting optics, sighting her in, and firing a few dozen rounds, I'll write a short range report.

longhorn_92 wrote:So????......

So...I have a nice write-up about the rifle from the May, 2009 edition of The Small Arms Review, pages 30-37!

I pulled all the past paperwork and communications last month just to review everything. The actual order via the FFL was faxed to POF on May 14. So eight more days will be my one-year anniversary! I'm not quite sure how to celebrate...

Yep. I bought some SA surplus last year when I decided to order the rifle (it was already considerably more than what you paid), but in what probably will turn out to be a stupid move I decided to buy no additional ammo or spare mags for a rifle I didn't have, and didn't know exactly when (and I admit a tiny bit of "if": ya never know; companies go out of business) I'd have in my hands.

Heck, I still don't even know if POF will honor the price of the rifle at the time I placed the order, or if it will be the current price when they post the charge (they do that when they contact you with a delivery date, generally about 20 days out). We'll see.

BTW, it's not a .308 so shouldn't be in this Topic, but POF is introducing a new 6.8 SPC toy this year that looks pretty sweet: http://www.pof-usa.com/6-8np3/P-415-14- ... LENGTH.htm. Though I like the idea of the 6.8, not sure I'd ever buy one for my own needs. I'll probably make-do with .223 and .308.

longhorn_92 wrote:Any word yet about your POF???

Thanks for remembering! I called POF after Thanksgiving, and they confirmed that my April order was the first in line of five outstanding orders for the same FFL. They were extremely friendly and helpful. Their best estimate at the time was an additional three to five months. I'm thinking March or April...so only a year after the order was placed.

After that wait, I'm fully expecting this guy to be the heirloom EBR of my collection. Pics and range report as soon as possible.

Hey, ScubaSigGuy:

Nice lookin' rig. What kind of bipod did you get? Harris?

I'm being very patient...

mez1st wrote:What are your thoughts on the Remington R-25 .308?

There was a short but decent review of it in the November issue of American Rifleman. Beyond that, I don't know anything about the rifle and have never held one. So I'm obviously an expert.

What I do find interesting is that, even though the rifle is manufactured at the DPMS plant, they're branded and sold as Remington (Cerberus Capital Management owns Remington, DPMS, Bushmaster, and some other, smaller gun makers).

I think that's a great idea because the rifle is trying to become a crossover product. The action seems to be pure-"D" AR-10, with all the aftermarket add-ons and drop-ins available. And it takes standard AR-10 magazines; you can sure bet that DPMS mags will fit. .

But Remmy is targeting hunters, not EBR aficionados. In fact, I don't think the rifle is even available in black, only Mossy Oak. A lot has been done to trim weight, including a fluted barrel, all-Zytel furniture, and upper and lower receivers both of milled aluminum. The result is an unloaded weight of 8 lbs., 12 ozs.: not bad to carry around for a day of hunting. And in addition to .308, you can get it chambered in .243 Winchester or 7mm-08 Remington. But I'm with you: if I were looking at this rifle, .308 would be the only choice just because of all the aftermarket stuff that would be available to it.

It does have an evil pistol grip, but the stock is a standard A2 type, not a skeletonized adjustable that looks more evil. The barrel is free-floating, but the aluminum handguard is long and has no rail...again, making the rifle look a little less evil. Oh, and it comes with only a four-round mag: less evil.

The reviewer didn't much like the stock trigger but again, since it's an AR-10, you can easily change out the trigger if you choose to.

It's not quite my cup of tea, but if Remington can do a decent job of marketing it as a hunting rifle, not an EBR, I think that would be a good thing.

That's a big maybe. If I've learned anything from hangin' around here, it's to listen to Montgomery.

Paying for Hurricane Ike put a damper on my budget for next year, but I consider the POF a 2008 purchase even if I don't see it until March. Second on the list is a Tromix tricked-out Saiga 12 gauge...if I can find one. Third is a new .45; I'm leaning toward an STI Eagle. Fourth was gonna be an AK, but I could see picking an FAL instead.

So many guns, so little time...

You're not helpin' my 2009 shopping list...

Yeeouch.

I finally broke down and telephoned POF about my order. Very nice folks; answered the phone on the first ring, and didn't seem off-put about my asking for a status...even before they found out it was one of the older ones.

So tell me if these rifles are in demand (and LCplMustafa, if you're still on the board, I should have been willing to pay premium and gone the route you did; my mistake):

My order is 196 days old (but who's counting), and there are still a bit over 100 orders in front of me. Best estimate is that I'll see the rifle no sooner than two to three months.

And I thought waiting on my CHL was tough.

But at least I know it's still in the works, so I won't run out and spend the money I budgeted for it on something else.

If the demand has been so high that they're building February/March orders now, I wonder what the post-election demand looks like.

It is still the firearm I most want, so I'll just try to forget all about it until spring...

FYI, still no new news on the POF .308 order. We're now at six months.

I really really want this rifle. I sincerely hope the bottoming economic situation doesn't impact high-end firearm manufacturers like Patriot Ordnance.

longhorn_92 wrote:Time is almost here for your delivery.....any chance it may come early???

I doubt it. No update yet, and I promised myself I wouldn't start getting antsy until at least mid-October. But I've held off buying any more ammo or the EO-Tech magnifier until I have the rifle in hand.

I'm being very patient.

Well, LCplMustafa took ownership of his new POF .308 Saturday. I got to take a look at it Sunday.

My October delivery date is looking far, far away.

FYI, I officially put in the order for the POF .308. Wait time is estimated at 5 months.

Darned, these things are in demand...

So there were a few strings that came with the free ammo.

Just an FYI, I found this site a couple of weeks ago while I was browsing for .308 ammo: http://gun-deals.com/.

It's a free, contributor-based database of recent pricing on various gun-related stuff, including ammo. The more participation the better, though all but a couple of the best prices I'd found on .308 and .223 were already on file. I registered with them and whenever I'm on an ammo hunt, I'll compare against their data and provide updates when warranted. Overall, I think it's a pretty nifty idea.

308nato wrote:Man it was not that long ago that I was buying 140 rd battle packs for about 20.00.

Yeah, really. I wonder what this South African manufactured ammo went for shortly after it was produced around 1980?

And, folks, I got my first bad firearm news of the week. I finally broke down and pulled the trigger--so to speak--on ordering the Patriot Ordnance Factory .308 I want. Other than the cost, that's not bad news. The bad news: "Expect a six- to nine-month wait from the manufacturer." The demand is far outstripping the factory's ability to produce 'em.

I know there may be some in dealer stock somewhere to be had faster, but I'll get a better deal ordering through a friend. So I guess I'll wait; he'll place the order Monday and give me an idea then of the expected wait time. At least I'll have some ammo for my Christmas present when it finally gets here.

Meanwhile, I'll have to content myself with pictures and a range report from LCplMustafa when his POF arrives.