them wrote:Two answers, one for the browsing question, one for the online side of the question.
First: I go into stores to browse all the time, and it has nothing to do with the internet. I was browsing before I had ever heard of the internet. I go into home depot to see if they have anything I can adapt to projects I am working on, to outdoor stores to see camping gear that might workfor upcoming trips, and so on. I definitely go to gun stores to see if they have anything I "absolutely need" ;). If approached by a store employee I will typically say, "Just browsing," which isn't code for, "I'm looking here but will buy online," but rather, "I don't need personal service at this time." When I find an item I am interested in I start making decisions about when and how to buy. At that point the store is definitely in the running to make a sale, but the sale was never guaranteed and I have no obligation to buy or buy from that store. I will find the best overall deal (taking into account cost, time, guarantees, and so on). I may go home to think about it and come back a week later to buy. I may find I can buy it online for a dramatically better price and buy that way. I think that is not only ethical, but good for the store.
Second answer: Regarding the specific case of seeing something online and wanting to touch/feel it before buying. I think this is now called "showrooming" rather than browsing. I think showrooming is to the merchan's benefit because people who become interested in a gun (any product) visit the merchant's store. If Joe Internet sees a 642 (or whatever) online, reads reviews, checks the prices on someonlinegunstore.com, there are two ways it can go from there:
1) They buy the gun right then and there, counting on return policies or the ability to sell to cover disappointments. The deal is done and local retailers lost the sale without ever knowing it was being considered. Some kitchen table FFL will get $20 and that's that.
2) Joe wants to touch and feel so he heads for a local shop. The shop has a prospect walk through their door interested in a particular gun and intending to buy. It is now up to the sales person to convince Joe that buying from that shop is better in some way than buying online...an opportunity the shop didn't have before.
Possibility #2 is something businesses pay for. They pay real money to get qualified customers in the door. Advertising, store decore, and so on...none of which was needed to get Joe to come in. I say it is not only ethical of Joe to visit a local retailer to touch/feel, but it is a positive benefit to the retailer and can be viewed as free money being given to the store. It is up to the store to recognize the opportunity and close the sale. If the store can't close it is just sour grapes and an indication of poor thinking to blame online retailers for their own missed opportunity.
That is my take anyway. :)
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- Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:25 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Just Browsing?
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Re: Just Browsing?
- Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:29 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Just Browsing?
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Re: Just Browsing?
The OP doesn't say anything about using merchant's MONEY for personal advantage...just about going to browse without the intention to buy.Jim Beaux wrote: Though I prefer to shop local, I also buy online. Bargain hunting is prudent; but that was not the point of the OP. He asked if it is acceptable to use the merchant's MONEY for his own advantage. (which is also to the detriment of the merchant)
It's not freeloading at all. It's an expected and normal part of business. You always have and always will have window shoppers, it's not a new concept and does not catch anyone off guard. There is nothing unethical about it at all. Now where it would cross the line into unethical behavior is if you lied to the worker and presented that you were interested in buying from them. I can't count the number of times I've been in a store and someone has come ask if they could help me and I simply said "No thanks, I'm just browsing." Their universal response is then, "Ok, I'll be over here, let me know if you need anything or have any questions." And sometimes I actually do go get them to ask questions or have them help me in some way...and they are happy to help. It's a part of good customer service.Jim Beaux wrote:
This practice is free loading and it's the antithesis of commerce. It's also a major reason that our country is presently in the shape it is.
That's part of business and it will never change...and no one should feel guilty about it (I sure don't! ).
- Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:19 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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Re: Just Browsing?
It's insane to say that I'm obligated to buy at a certain store because I'm looking at their merchandise. That goes against the very foundation of commerce.
I have totally gone to a gun store to physically check out some guns before I went to a gun show to buy them. I've even "browsed" online before going to gun show to buy a gun (to see what prices are good or bad). Sometimes I've even gone to a gun show to look at lots of guns to contrast/compare and not buy anything at the show. I've been at a store before and saw something I wanted, I then whipped out my phone and did a quick online search and decided to buy online instead of right there at the store (I weighed the tradeoff of waiting a few more days to get it rather than pay the higher price and get it immediately). I have absolutely no guilt in doing so...nor should I.
Any business has to present a good value proposition to me in order to earn my business. Will having a good inventory, almost guaranteeing I can get whatever I want when I want it, make me pay a premium price (however large or small that "premium" that is)? It might, but it might not...for me, it depends on how big the "premium" is.
To think that you can't go into a store and browse with the intention of purchasing somewhere else is ludicrous...I bet car salesmen would love that "rule" though
I have totally gone to a gun store to physically check out some guns before I went to a gun show to buy them. I've even "browsed" online before going to gun show to buy a gun (to see what prices are good or bad). Sometimes I've even gone to a gun show to look at lots of guns to contrast/compare and not buy anything at the show. I've been at a store before and saw something I wanted, I then whipped out my phone and did a quick online search and decided to buy online instead of right there at the store (I weighed the tradeoff of waiting a few more days to get it rather than pay the higher price and get it immediately). I have absolutely no guilt in doing so...nor should I.
Any business has to present a good value proposition to me in order to earn my business. Will having a good inventory, almost guaranteeing I can get whatever I want when I want it, make me pay a premium price (however large or small that "premium" that is)? It might, but it might not...for me, it depends on how big the "premium" is.
To think that you can't go into a store and browse with the intention of purchasing somewhere else is ludicrous...I bet car salesmen would love that "rule" though