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by gregthehand
Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:14 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"
Replies: 72
Views: 9181

Re: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"

srothstein wrote:
gregthehand wrote:Ok they only sale to Law Enforcement. The only other option would be if I had a bonofide shooting range that conducted training. At that point I would have to contact Simunition and say pretty please and they *might* give me a letter saying I can purchase their (very expensive) equipment. My only other hope is the used market as it seems they don't have any control on that.
Well, if you get around to doing this, let me know. I have three simunition revolvers plus plenty of ammo for them in our warehouse. I am sure we can work something out with a couple officers getting training in the scenario.
Sounds good.
by gregthehand
Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:46 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"
Replies: 72
Views: 9181

Re: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"

Ok they only sale to Law Enforcement. The only other option would be if I had a bonofide shooting range that conducted training. At that point I would have to contact Simunition and say pretty please and they *might* give me a letter saying I can purchase their (very expensive) equipment. My only other hope is the used market as it seems they don't have any control on that.

So what about Airsoft? Maybe a high quality airsoft pistol or two would work?
by gregthehand
Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:33 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"
Replies: 72
Views: 9181

Re: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"

The guns part was something I was wondering about. I am trying to get a hold of Simunition and see how much two conversion kits and some ammo would cost. I figure I can always do some good training with the sim guns on down the road. Maybe if the sim ammo is cheap I can practice in my own back yard!

I will keep everyone updated as to what I find out. I'm serious about wanting to do this and post it on youtube.
by gregthehand
Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:32 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"
Replies: 72
Views: 9181

Re: ABC 20/20 "Guns in America"

I once again would like to mention that I saw how the "gunman" new exaclty where their opposition would be sitting. I mean it was very obvious to me that as soon as he shot the lecturer he turned exactly where they would be sitting. I even noticed at one point the student got up and moved the gunman's left. The guman had I guess practiced so much that they had to pause a moment and figure out where the person had gone. Also I noticed the gunman always focused only on the student with the firearm and never even looked at anyone else.

In my opinion the gunman had been told or trained (or both) where the student with the weapon would be seated.

I was also upset that the first guy they showed carrying told the girl next to him that he was armed. Obviously they showed this to cover the angle of if students carry others will know and not want to come to class.

I'm thinking about performing my own little experiment. I have a place that is just like a classroom I could use for the experiment. I think I could get a reasonable amount of people to show up as well. I think a better idea would be to find out who in the group has a CHL. Then figure out a way to randomly pick one of those that does and have them be the armed student. I would actually want everyone in the classroom setting to be un-aware of what would happen. Maybe even the lecturer. Furthermore I would not tell the shooter they were the shooter until just before the others. Maybe run a few expriments where they had time to study the room but not where people sit. Then have the student carrying concealed sit where every they like. Also everyone would wear whatever they felt like. I understand having everyone wear the same thing but I think ABC did this in hopes they would look scientific. Unfortunatley by having the gunman know where the student with the gun would be the credibility of the study went right out the window. Anyone interested in being involved with this if I put it together?

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