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RatMan wrote: Besides, with my health right now taking chemo, I'd be hard pressed to hit repeating shots... :(

Sorry to hear that. Hang in there buddy. I'm pullin' for you.

RatMan wrote: You know my viewpoint... Buy a Springfield and save the money you will be spending on a "name" for extra ammo.... I'll put my SA micro side by side to any production Kimber.... Of course, YMMV.... :)

Which SA micro do you have? We should have a shoot-off. Your SA Micro vs my Ultra CDP.

Also, regarding the extremely reliable statement. Mine was anything but reliable. I could not get through a 50 round box of ammo without half a dozen failures. I really wanted to like that gun too.

edit: I found the reference to the tactical external extractor here: http://www.kimberamerica.com/tactical.php on a particular gun, however on all the Ultras (except the tactical ultra), Eclipse Ultra, CDP Ultra, Ultra carry models, the do not refer to an external extractor and all the pictures show internal models.

As far as them not replacing slides with internal versions if that's not true it means a lot of folks are lying on 1911forum.

My personal experience was with a stainless ultra carry. Kimber worked on it twice and never got it right.
If you go to 1911forum.com and do a search for Kimber Extractor you'll find more than you can read about the internal vs external extractors.
In more recent threads you'll see that Kimber is now replacing the slides on guns that come in with external extractrs and FTE problems with internal extractor versions.
Kimber has also pulled all references to their "tactical" external extractor off the their website.

Besides, if an external extractor was better, JMB would've designed it that way in the beginning.

I have the Ultra CDP which is also a 3" KImber. It's a great gun, shoots accurately, 100% reliable and gobbles up all ammo without a hiccup.

Make sure, of you buy the Eclipse Ultra, that it has an INTERNAL extractor. DO NOT buy one with an EXTERNAL extractor.

Internal = Good, External = Bad.