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by Wes
Fri May 23, 2014 2:41 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Repeal the 30.06 law
Replies: 136
Views: 30845

Re: Repeal the 30.06 law

rtschl wrote:fixing things like 51% signs in a venue where clearly they don't meet 51% of their sales in alcohol, but a vendor they hired does. :banghead:

Ron
Better yet. Let's get rid of the 51% business altogether.
by Wes
Thu May 22, 2014 11:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Repeal the 30.06 law
Replies: 136
Views: 30845

Re: Repeal the 30.06 law

jmra wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:No bill repealing TPC §30.06 will ever pass. The NRA and TSRA will kill it easily and rightfully so. You may not know the history behind HB2909 in 1997, so I understand that you may not appreciate the fact that TPC §30.06 saved CHL in Texas.

Private property rights are treasured in Texas and this is good. The legislature will never pass a law that strips a private property owner's ability to bar armed CHLs from entering their property. That concept doesn't even have widespread support among gun owners or even CHLs. I floated the idea of prohibiting owners of commercial property open to the public from barring armed CHLs and that didn't get anywhere; there simply is no support for the concept even with business property.

I do think there is at least a chance to lower the penalty to a Class C misdemeanor.

Chas.
Having very little experience dealing with these matters I had to google the penalty for a Class C misdemeanor in Texas. This is what I came up with:
"Class C misdemeanors in Texas are punishable by a fine of up to $500. There is no jail time for a class C misdemeanor."

If this is accurate this would seem to be a great "next step".
Don't forget the most important part, a class C doesn't exclude you from having a CHL. This is an email/phone campaign I would definitely support.

See, and I bet everyone thought nothing good would come of this thread, lol.
by Wes
Thu May 22, 2014 8:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Repeal the 30.06 law
Replies: 136
Views: 30845

Re: Repeal the 30.06 law

Yes, specifying 30.06 is specific, but not when it is the key piece of our law. The above example of changing section B of 30.06 is a specific example as I was referencing it. I would fully be behind the change of the penalty. Repealing it altogether not so much. The risk/reward just isn't there for me.
by Wes
Thu May 22, 2014 7:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Repeal the 30.06 law
Replies: 136
Views: 30845

Re: Repeal the 30.06 law

jmra wrote:I would love to see it changed from a criminal penalty to a civil penalty. Carry past a 30.06 sign subject to a $200 fine.
This is a great example of how we could have meaningful impact with a relatively small change to the current law.
by Wes
Thu May 22, 2014 6:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Repeal the 30.06 law
Replies: 136
Views: 30845

Re: Repeal the 30.06 law

To me, this is akin to some of the more aggressive OC folks like OCT. We want it all and we want it now and we are going to make it happen our way. That accomplishes nothing. If you dislike parts of the chl law, try to repeal it specifically. For example, carry in bars. Then, take on another piece, like maybe carry in schools. So on and so forth. This will lead to additional freedoms without disregarding all the work done before. Private property owners will always have a way to limit chl holders in Texas. Something I don't disagree with. Without 30.06 we could end up with gun busters barring our entry. No thank you. I am fine with 30.06, if they post it I know my business isnt welcome.

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