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by Shinesintx
Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:55 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL Instructors class
Replies: 119
Views: 11353

Re: CHL Instructors class

wgoforth wrote:
Shinesintx wrote:Still no response to the OP from the DPS? Why am I not surprised. :totap:
Me too neither....
I stated very early in this thread that DPS would not want to put written/emailed info into your hands. Hence the reason you are having to ask for it...you were never given this info the first time. I never thought that you were mistaken.
by Shinesintx
Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:52 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL Instructors class
Replies: 119
Views: 11353

Re: CHL Instructors class

Still no response to the OP from the DPS? Why am I not surprised. :totap:
by Shinesintx
Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL Instructors class
Replies: 119
Views: 11353

Re: CHL Instructors class

wgoforth wrote:Here is the letter I sent to the instructor yesterday:

Dear XXX
First, I enjoyed your programs and appreciated the task before you. I am a full-time minister and speak before groups so I know what challenges you had.

There were some things said in class that I thought I understood, I then asked others and other officers after class to make sure...but now discussing them on the forum, many have told me I must have misundertsood so I am writing for clarification.

I ~understood~ the Capt to say that we should not carry past any no gun sign, that we were served effective notice. I asked about even the old Vernon Code is on some buildings, how can you violate a non-existant law? And I remember the answer being because I knew the intent, served effective notice. Too, in asking about a 7-11 that posted a 51%, the answer was don't go past it.

Is it the understanding of the DPS then what I understood... that although a business should post a valid 30.06, if they fail to do so that is their mistake, but we still knew their intent and should not carry past?

Did I also understand the lady from Regulatory Services to say that if we have a Ladies CHL class, and a man wants to attend, we cannot stop him or we will be violating federal law of a protected class (sex bias)? That we might tailor it for women, but cannot prevent a man?

That there is no minimum amount of alcohol for CHL carrier? That if you smell it on me while carrying there could be a problem?

Wanting to make sure, as these are different from both my understanding of the TPC as well as most on the forum. Wanting to make sure I didn't misunderstand the position of the DPS, and others are assuring me I must have!

Thanks again,
Wayne
Bet you a $1.00 that any written replies you receive are still vague and ambiguous. :smilelol5:

I dont trust em...as I figure its gonna be a case of CYA on their part.
by Shinesintx
Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:01 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL Instructors class
Replies: 119
Views: 11353

Re: CHL Instructors class

wgoforth wrote:Gentlemen...let me suggest something. I am not one to disregard when someone brings something to my attention. Could I be mistaken? Not impossible. Had I ~thought~ I had been, obviously I would not have posted these things. Since the question has been raised, and I do not wish to falsely accuse the program, let me write to the Officer who was in charge of the program for clarification. Until then, perhaps lets ride this thing out until I double check. Again, had I thought I misunderstood I would have done so first, but now that the question has been asked if it were possible...and it is a fair question, then let me find out!
Ya wanna know what infuriates the ever livin snot outa me...that you did not receive a manual in black and white that spells it out for all of us. Why in the heck is the DPS passing down info to instructors to teach in oral and not written form?

1) Shouldnt the DPS have a list of FAQ's?
2) For something as serious as CC, shouldn't they (DPS/State of Texas) have a website?
3) Do they fail to disseminate this info for a reason?

I could go on, but I think yall get my point.

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