XtremeDuty.45 wrote:That has been debated many times on here and it has been quite a while since I have been on the forum but IIRC it is usually mixed opinions. My opinion would be to try and help the innocent party out if I felt that I could. HOWEVER, in order for me to use deadly force I would have to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person is innocent and didn't attack first.Westfield wrote:haos » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:53 pm
@XtremeDuty.45
Well maybe I wasn't clear, he does ask for when he legally can use deadly force. And I guess my simplified response would actually be a question. If one of these mobs isn't attacking you or robbing you, why would you WANT to use deadly force in the first place? I don't think you legally could, and I don't logically see why you would want to.
But what if the mob is beating the snot out of defenseless people like they did in Wisconsin ? What should our rersponse if any be ?
Example: You are pulling into a gas station and upon exiting your vehicle you see some guy getting beat. You did not see anything else but a fight. Not what started it, nothing. So how do you know who is innocent? How do you know the guy doing the beating wasn't attacked and is now defending himself?
I understand that in the cases of these "Flash Mobs" that it would be pretty obvious who is the innocent party. But you have to consider the numbers. Are you going to do any good by intervening or will you just become another casualty? I am one that believes in helping others out when I can. However, in a case like this I might even have to say that the best thing a person could do is to call 911 and provide the best and most detailed descriptions that you can. Stay on the line with them and do one of two things after the mob leaves. Check the victim/s and depending if they are in need of first aid or not you should 1) render first aid or 2) try and see where the mob is going and give as much information to the authorities as you can (car descriptions, directions, etc).
Obviously this is my opinion and everyone has their own. Also, each situation is different. You cannot have a planned course of action and think that will work for everything. There are just too many variables in every scenario (location, bystanders, is your family with you or not, number of BGs, your physical ability etc.) You really cannot prepare for this. No one truly knows what they will do if something like this were to happen. The best we can do is practice with our carry guns and prepare ourselves mentally that there may be a day that we have to use it and pray that day never comes.
Glad you said it...so I did not have to type it out.
The bold statement is EXACTLY what I was thinking.