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by jimlongley
Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is this 30.06 sign posted at Wholefoods compliant?
Replies: 108
Views: 20376

Re: Is this 30.06 sign posted at Wholefoods compliant?

Keith B wrote:
rivertripper wrote:Thanks Keith, but wouldn't that make every printed matter "contrasting colors"?

Regretably, the DPS does not promulgate the signs; also, there probably is no
Texas case law on this.

At a minimum, I do understand the principle of - you can beat the rap but not the ride.
Well, not really for all printing. Contrasting colors are actually 'complementary colors' http://desktoppub.about.com/od/glossary ... colors.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementary_colors" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Take a sign with an orange background and yellow letters. While it may be readable, it would not be contrasting. Green and yellow are also not contrasting. However, black and white are, as well as blue and red.
And then you get into colors that color blind people cannot distinguish. My brother in law cannot tell the difference between red and green, which would usually be considered contrasting colors.
by jimlongley
Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:46 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is this 30.06 sign posted at Wholefoods compliant?
Replies: 108
Views: 20376

Re: Is this 30.06 sign posted at Wholefoods compliant?

epontius wrote:The signage is confusing in the least and I would say may not meet the requirements for "is displayed in a conspicuous manner
clearly visible to the public."
I've been to the Whole Foods in the Domain twice in the last couple of months carrying, including just yesterday. I pay attention to the signage on the doors when I carry (and even when I don't carry). I glanced at this sign each time on my way in (it is partially covered when the door is open) and didn't recognize it as a 30.06. Thought it was the typical TABC sign. I'm always looking for "Pursuant to Section 30.06..." at the top left of the signage. By combining the two it is really, really confusing. As the TABC sign mentions "unlicensed" then that is negated by the 30.06 more than halfway down the sign. Seems to me that these should be separate signs. Post the 30.06 on its own sign on the front door. Post the 11.041 either lower down the door within its own sign or further into the entrance of the store.
I guess it is a reminder to myself to be more diligent in reading/deciphering these signs. I'm hesitant to just stand there reading a sign for several minutes as it just tells everyone around you that you might be carrying.
Since I refuse to be a victim, I won't be shopping there anymore as they don't want my business or that of other law abiding citizens.
While I agree that the signage is confusing, and will confess to walking past it until it was pointed out in this thread, because I never even saw the 30.06 portion, I also see the word "INCLUDES" in the statute, which does not exclude other language, nor does it state that it has to be the "top" language on the sign.

So I have let them know why I will not longer do business with them. We'll see if I get an answer.
by jimlongley
Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is this 30.06 sign posted at Wholefoods compliant?
Replies: 108
Views: 20376

Re: Is this 30.06 sign posted at Wholefoods compliant?

The Allen Whole Foods updated their signage in the last couple of weeks, so I'll be sending them a card and not shopping there again. I'll have to find another source of fresh seeds and nuts for my parrots.

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