So your entire statement “So, how far back do you want to go? What did Illinois House Representative Obama, then US Senator Obama lie about regarding his support for gun owners? I'd like to know specifically when and what statement you are referring to so I can answer you properly.” was an “honest mistake”?Matto79 wrote:I have to admit, I'm pretty pleased with how active this post has been, and it will take me a little more time that usual to reply to it all.
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Really quick, I want to apologize for mistating that Obama was an Illinois State House Rep, when we was an Illinois State Senator. Honest mistake on my part.
. . . And I understand why other things would have been brought up on this topic to show cause and example as to Obama's record of lying/flip-flopping and thats what influences someone's belief as to why he can't be trusted about guns.
However, all I'm trying to do is deal with the issue of both options of Obama and Romney and their records regarding fireamrs. In the end, I'm not really that worried with either of them regarding this. The NRA is too powerful of a lobby to let something like Clinton's AWB to happen again. I don't think Congress would ever seriously look at this topic again, unless we have a severe frequent occurance of more mass shootings occur. I hope that doesn't happen, primarily because I hate hearing about people being senselessly murdered. Still, I'm just not worried about Obama on this issue. And side by side, I also don't think Romney is a better choice to protect this issue either. He's probably better for others, but based on the arguements, not necessarily better than Obama.
Bambam solicited the support of the ISRA and lied to the gun owners present and by extension the entire ISRA membership and all gun owners in Illinois, like I said, that makes him a liar, particularly about gun issues, once and for all. Unfortunately I don’t have the exact date and time, nor the exact words, but I was then and am still a life member of ISRA and got the word from people who were there when this charismatic young politician asked my organization to support his candidacy because he was not an enemy of gun owners. HE IS A LIAR!
I am worried about bambam, and I am worried about Romney, but I think bambam is worse, and my only issue in this thread until now has been bambam and his lies.