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Crossfire wrote:I got a written warning. So, no test case here. At least not yet. And it was a DPS officer in Hood county. Your attorney link would be great, but only handles Dallas county cases.

Officer believed me that I just got the plates, since I still have the dealer plate that is unexpired, and I do have the other plate. It's just in the trunk.

I really think he was more concerned about the window tint. He seemed pretty surprised when it passed. The car is blackberry, (more black than berry.) The back windows are limousine tint, so the front windows look very dark when looking at it in passing.

I probably will put the front plate on, just to keep the harassment to a minimum. It just annoys me that, looking around after getting stopped, probably 10% of the cars on the road have no front plate. So, this must be only selectively enforced.

I would still insist that the dealership put the plate on. Show them the warning and point out that it was they that caused you to get stopped.

jimlongley

Crossfire wrote:Going back to the original question... did we ever get an answer on front license plates?

I have a new Dodge Charger, just got the plates on Monday. Let the dealer install them, and they did not put the front plate on. Told me that they NEVER put front plates on a Charger, as it requires drilling holes in the bumper.

Now, here it is Wednesday, exactly 2 days later, and I get pulled over for no front plate. Oh, and he thought my window tint was too dark. It wasn't.

So, what's the story? I don't want to ugly up my new car, but I don't want to invite unwanted attention, either. Especially if there is still a $200 fine, which is what I was told today.

I would expect the dealer to "retrofit" the plate, and pay the fine.

jimlongley

knotquiteawake wrote:Texas Lawmakers Accidentally Omit 2 License Plate Law
Some media coverage on the issue finally.
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/traffic/tex ... law-011112" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, as I suspected:
Pertiz said officers will likely continue to issue tickets based on the original law and let the courts worry about it.

I think, although my vehicle is designed for two plates, and it has two, and they are the same, I would be sorely tempted to file an administrative harassment suit if an officer ticketed me based on the old law, especially if there was even one scintilla of proof that he was aware of the new law.

jimlongley

knotquiteawake wrote:Here is a request to the Attorney General for clarification. https://www.oag.state.tx.us/opinions/op ... 1014GA.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting reading. Keep an eye on the AG website to see what the reply is.
My FIL says the police will probably keep enforcing the plate laws and let the courts figure it out. He thinks the AG will lean towards the regular class C traffic misdemeanor $200 fine but that the courts are of course not bound by the AGs opinion so it will likely be litigated somewhere.
The answer to the request will eventually be posted here:
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/opin/opindex.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It looks to me as though he is requesting that Attorney General to correct his proofreading error and render enacted legislation moot.

I see it as just the opposite. The $200.00 fine was part of the statute since 1934, and such a fine definition is a normal part of many other statute, therefore its elimination must have been purposeful rather than an oversight.

He says he was the sponsor of the legislation and it was not his intent to eliminate the fine, but that does not mean that he authored the legislation, or that he even read it before he agreed to sponsor it. I would like to hear from the original author.

jimlongley

Purplehood wrote:It is just me, but I could never conceive of sticking a license plate in my front window. I can imagine the mayhem and damage to face(s) that could occur if a License Plate started flying around the car.

A friend at the phone company had picked up a set of tags from the motor vehicle bureau and was driving along in his bucket truck when he was broadsided by a sedan "driven" by a woman who was attending to a squalling child in a car seat and ran a red light at around 40mph. His truck turned completely over and came back to rest on its wheels, a LARGE bucket truck. Dave was pretty badly injured, his lunchbox (the kind with a thermos in the top) was identified as the object that broke his right forearm, and a pretty bad slash on his upper arm came from his license plates. He also suffered a severe head injury and other bumps and bruises, but we were all amazed at the amount of damage the plates inflicted.

Shortly after that one, the phone company came out with a new edict about not carrying "loose" items in the truck cab.

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