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by jimlongley
Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:57 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Flying with a gun(special question)
Replies: 28
Views: 3402

Re: Flying with a gun(special question)

Dionadair wrote:
chabouk wrote: And, just to add to the confusion: the gun case must be locked with a non-TSA lock to which only the flyer has the key, while the outer luggage must be locked with a TSA lock.
I've never had a problem having my gun case locked with a TSA lock. In fact the first time when the TSA agent asked me for my key and I told him it was a TSA lock he replied "even better".

On another note, EVERY time I have flown with a checked firearm I've been flagged for additional screening.
TSA rules eliminate TSA locks from consideration for use on gun cases.

TSA locks are NOT a must have on outer luggage, they are merely a convenience for TSA.

TSA locks are opened by a set of master keys that each TSA location has, kept in a sign out lockbox, and some have been lost over time, TSA locks are not any safer than any other lock and may even be less so. As a former TSA agent, I do not use TSA locks.
by jimlongley
Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:24 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Flying with a gun(special question)
Replies: 28
Views: 3402

Re: Flying with a gun(special question)

mgood wrote:
jimlongley wrote:
mgood wrote:Any lockable hard case will be fine. It could be in a soft "gun-rug" type zipper case if that is locked inside a hard suitcase.
"Gun Rugs" do not comply with the requirement for a hard case and if discovered will be dealt with. I have, personally, sent someone off to buy a hard case at a nearby store because they had their gun in a gun rug. WHen the law says hard sided, it means hard sided.
I understand that the "gun rug" itself is not adequate. But if that is then locked inside a hard suitcase, would that not qualify? The hard suitcase becomes the hard case. I guess my question is does the gun have to be in a hard gun case? Does a gun in a hard suitcase have to be in anything else?
Oops, sorry, you're right, a suitable hard suitcase would be adequate, with or without the gun rug.
by jimlongley
Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:47 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Flying with a gun(special question)
Replies: 28
Views: 3402

Re: Flying with a gun(special question)

mgood wrote:Any lockable hard case will be fine. It could be in a soft "gun-rug" type zipper case if that is locked inside a hard suitcase.
"Gun Rugs" do not comply with the requirement for a hard case and if discovered will be dealt with. I have, personally, sent someone off to buy a hard case at a nearby store because they had their gun in a gun rug. WHen the law says hard sided, it means hard sided.
mgood wrote:Or a hard plastic, locked, gun case such as the one your XD came with will work inside any checked baggage. It doesn't have to be in a pry-bar-proof vault to meet the regulations (though that might help you feel more comfortable), just something that can't be cut open with a knife.
Although a "gun case such as the one your XD came in" does pass as a hard sided lockable case, I wouod not personally recommend it. The one my XD came in has a molded in hinge that is just a fold in the plastic and I can zip that open in a second with a good knife. I would not pack any of my guns that way.

jimlongley wrote:I see that I am cross posting with someone else, so I'll leave it at that.
Don't let us run you off. I think you're the expert on this.[/quote]

Thanks, I just didn't want to be repeating the same stuff someone else was saying.

The airlines can and do have separate rules over and above te Federal regulations, such as limiting the weight of ammo you can carry, and denying you from having ammo in magazines. How they are going to find out is a whole 'nother question, because it is not TSA's job to check THEIR rules. If a particular airline says no ammo packed in magazines, I would call them and find out if they really mean that or if they are just incorrectly parroting the Federal regs, and if they seem to mean it, I would not try to skirt the rule because if they find out you are, you are not going to fly.

And remember, it's not TSA's job to enforce airline rules, but TSA and airline personnel work together a lot and become friends (and more, I can assure you) so that anti-gun TSA screener who sees your gun with loaded magazines could tell his (friend, boyfriend, girlfriend) who is a ticket agent and the next thing you know you are sitting outside watching your plane leave without you.

And don't think that they can't do it, or that they would be violating some right, they are a private enterprise and get to set the rules, within limits, about who or what can travel on their planes. Remember the fuss a couple of years ago about the young lady in the very short skirt and revealing blouse, and the very overweight guy recently. Neither got to fly, that day. (BTW, I have seen shorter skirts go on SW planes, but at least they had underwear on, and that's the "short" version of the story on that one.)
by jimlongley
Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Flying with a gun(special question)
Replies: 28
Views: 3402

Re: Flying with a gun(special question)

74novaman wrote:
srothstein wrote:Don't worry. The gun will still be in the bag, just as you checked it and he will only know if you tell him.
So it just pops up on the carousel? I don't know whether to feel relieved or more worried....now I'm thinking about somebody mistakenly grabbing my bag as theirs and my gun disapprearing.... :headscratch
I have known it to happen. This is a very good reason to mark your bag in a very unique manner, big pink ribbon, huge name tag, something very noticeable. If you look around the carousel, you will note that many bags are marked that way, so you are not screaming "GUN" you are just declaring your property.

I see that I am cross posting with someone else, so I'll leave it at that.

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