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by jimlongley
Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:14 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: First Community Credit Union
Replies: 16
Views: 1905

Re: First Community Credit Union

seamusTX wrote:
jimlongley wrote:I usually try to couch my letters in terms that expressly do not state that I am a CHL holder,..
I've done that also; but realistically, who else is going to write such a letter?

I had a long essay on CHL confidentiality published in the newspaper, back when the legislature debated it in 2007. That newspaper has a circulation around 30,000; and nobody I know said Boo to me.

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- Jim
When I was eighteen years old I joined a volunteer fire department. One of our long standing and well respected members was Brad, the father of a classmate of mine. Brad did not have the "advantage" of a higher education, his schooling was interrupted by a depression and a little fracas called WWII and he never went back after being away with General Patton for six years. Brad made a living as a repairman on oil furnaces and was perpetually "tattooed" with the fruits of his labors, at times it was hard to tell his race, kind of like a chimney sweep (which he also did.)

Brad wrote letters to the papers, very erudite and explicit letters, short and to the point, on any subject he felt concerned about, any subject at all.

I flunked my way through English classes, just barely making it through high school and only hitting my "intellectual stride" after I got out of the Navy.

Having learned, and laughed, with a master of letters to the editor, I started my missives in 1971, and have never stopped. I write about any issue that catches my eye and concerns me, from insurance rates and "health care reform" which we are all involved in, to disparate subjects that I have never had an interest in, up to and including businesses and stocks.

I read the paper, cover to cover, almost every day, and if an issue strike my eye, I write to the paper, sometimes agreeing with the article, most often disagreeing. I also started writing to people about anti-gun posting long before I was eligible to obtain a CHL, and have written to businesses in other states telling them of my plan to boycott them for their posting. I had a real interesting discussion with Best Western about one of their franchise motels in Ohio a couple of years ago, because of the sign displayed at the front desk, which resulted in my changing motels while the "assistant manager" blustered at me.

When I saw the sign on the credit union mentioned before, I quit, and this was right after my wife and I bought our house in TX, and we obviously were not yet eligible for CHLs, my letter to them told them that I was leaving them because of their attitude, not that it affected me directly. If they took it to mean that I had a CHL and that was why I was leaving, then it was because they didn't pay attention to what I had written, not that I stated it.

Again, assuming facts about me just because I wrote is likely to be an error.
by jimlongley
Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:52 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: First Community Credit Union
Replies: 16
Views: 1905

Re: First Community Credit Union

seamusTX wrote:Just be aware that you are effectively "outing" yourself as a CHL holder. Some people don't want to do that.
- Jim
I usually try to couch my letters in terms that expressly do not state that I am a CHL holder, but that I object to their discrimination against a more law abiding segment of the populace as a class, etc, etc, etc . . . I never actually say I am a CHL holder and if/when they write back stating that I said as much, I disabuse them of the invalid assumption.

Early on my letters used language like "As a CHL holder I am . . . " but now I use language more like "Are you aware that CHL holders . . ." I feel that the later language is more neutral and actually implies a more widespread boycott.

I also have changed the language on my cards so that it doesn't say "As a CHL holder, I . . . " opting instead for "CHL holders . . ."
Tass wrote:I'm a member also...rarely have a need to go into the actual building proper. Now that there is a branch at my local Kroger, I have even less reason to visit the main branch. I have not noticed a 30.06 sign at Kroger. FWIW, i haven't seen any of the grocery store branches posted. Anyone else?

Tass
When I first went to work at Alcatel, I joined Community Credit Union because they had an onsite branch (I always wondered about that deal) but when I discovered that their other branches were posted 30.06 (albeit improperly) I resigned my membership with a letter explaining why I wouldn't support them.

I got back a reply that they would be happy to have me do business with them via drive-up or at a non-posted branch (which did not exist except for the one on Alcatel's property, which would have put me in violation of company rules) I had to reply to point out that my boycott was of a company that would post ANY branch and that my principles would not allow me to do business with them anywhere.

I still hold that point of view. If you boycott a particular branch because it is posted, but still do business with them at places that are not posted, you are not having any effect on them in any way shape or form. It's the company that has the policy, and by doing business at un-posted places, you are enabling them, so stop doing business with them, anywhere, and let them know why, and point out that not posting ALL of their branches is corporate hypocrisy at best, so they really need to have a large and ugly sign posted in every Kroger.

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