Please feel free to re-read that, im sure you will see the difference in what I said and what you perceived initially. If you intend on trying to disprove opinions you disagree with, im not sure the purpose of creating this thread. The law is written, unfortunately, we aren't the jurors or the judge so we can only offer opinion.jamjam wrote:I'm sure any cop would agree...a vehicle is a weapon that can be used with deadly force. This is weird, but I've had not one, but two people (in one week no less), throw their car into reverse at a stop sign. One was an elderly man that felt he was too far into the intersection, the other...I don't know...he said he wanted to talk to me. The 2nd time, I was like, I cannot believe this, I see reverse lights, again, and I had a full cup of coffee, knocked it all over myself trying to throw my car into reverse, but it was too late. I was hit...again! Not a gun incident, but it all happened SO fast...and it was scary. You feel kinda helpless. So I can only imagine my brother's fear being on I-35 and seeing those reverse lights on. I definitely would not only have pulled my gun out, I would've shot at them. Maybe b/c I'm a woman and watch too much Investigation ID, but there are proven cases where men have "bumped" a woman in a car from behind to get her to pull over and get out of the car...and then she's dead. Also, I've had a brother that was murdered. So I never assume the best in regular people. We just don't know what we're dealing with. If a person is acting psycho/erratic, I will assume they are psycho. But please don't say my brother had NO fear for his life. He did. Otherwise, he wouldn't have reacted to attempted assault w/a deadly weapon (the truck). Then, and only then, did he act. I'm surprised that you said "nothing" happened for him to be in fear for his life. If CHL holders do not stick together, and just any person on the street lies and accuses a CHL holder, and people believe them, then what's the point of having a CHL? I hope you never have to deal w/any of these nutcases, liars, druggies, etc. Truly. Watch out for those reverse lights buddy...and thanks for your input. I do appreciate it, even if I disagree w/parts of it.FastCarry wrote:Hate to say it, but i dont think anything happened for him to be in fear for his life, or otherwise justify deadly force. Mistake one was pulling out his gun in the 1st place. Mistake two was not calling the police either instead, or as soon as he could. I dont think this will end up favorable.
As a CHL holder, you have a TREMENDOUS responsibility of knowing your rights, and the law as related to CHL. What would have happened if the guys in the truck were CHL's and were carrying? One guy on the phone explaining to the dispatcher that there is a guy pointing a gun at them while the other pops off a round and kills your brother.. maybe another way of thinking about when you should really be pulling your weapon.
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- Sat May 19, 2012 1:42 am
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Re: monster trucked to death?
- Fri May 18, 2012 7:23 pm
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Re: monster trucked to death?
Hate to say it, but i dont think anything happened for him to be in fear for his life, or otherwise justify deadly force. Mistake one was pulling out his gun in the 1st place. Mistake two was not calling the police either instead, or as soon as he could. I dont think this will end up favorable.
As a CHL holder, you have a TREMENDOUS responsibility of knowing your rights, and the law as related to CHL. What would have happened if the guys in the truck were CHL's and were carrying? One guy on the phone explaining to the dispatcher that there is a guy pointing a gun at them while the other pops off a round and kills your brother.. maybe another way of thinking about when you should really be pulling your weapon.
As a CHL holder, you have a TREMENDOUS responsibility of knowing your rights, and the law as related to CHL. What would have happened if the guys in the truck were CHL's and were carrying? One guy on the phone explaining to the dispatcher that there is a guy pointing a gun at them while the other pops off a round and kills your brother.. maybe another way of thinking about when you should really be pulling your weapon.