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charliee wrote:

I do not come in contact with 10 cops per month much less 10 daily. I think this concern is being way overblown. This argument is about as credible as people saying there will be blood running in the streets or the murder rate will go through the roof if people are allowed to open carry. Showing them our license until we all get used to it does not defeat our rights. The time to take up the Constitutional rights argument is not on the sidewalk at the time. All that does is escalate the situation. File a complaint or civil rights lawsuit afterward.

I think some on both sides of the issue are going too far trying to make the other side out to be the bad guys. Let's see how all this plays out before we get up in a tizzy over something that may not even come to fruition.

Are you saying you don't believe in 'probable cause'? You can't have it both ways... either you believe in it or you don't. The concern of multiple stops per day is real.

charliee wrote:

TexasGal wrote:Watching the video of the meeting was painful at times. The public is very uncomfortable with it at best. I wish they had done more to impress upon people that we are background checked thoroughly and didn't just pay money for a license. That we are not a threat. Period.

The guy who was so hung up on being asked for his ID. He was making such a bad impression. Ugghh. I do not see why there is such a chip on some shoulders about an officer asking for ID. The last thing anyone needs are hot heads on either side. The time to object to this is in the voting booth and on the phone with representatives. Not on the street where an officer is asking you for it. We need to be compliant and polite and take up any objection to it higher up the food chain. Otherwise, there will be some bad experiences that will do no one any good.

LE should not have a right to ask for OCers license unless they have a reason to do so. Them doing so defeats our given lawful right to OC.

It's not that we will be asked just once. What if we are asked to show our license, say, 10 times daily? LE doesn't like OC and they are determined to defeat it, one way or another. Wait and see.

No one is more friendly and courteous than I am. But I don't see being so nice to the cops that needlessly stop us and violate our constitutional rights. After all, we do have a right to free speech.

The Texas Attorney General really should get involved in all this and give LE some guidance. Or do we really have an Attorney General?