VoiceofReason wrote:Nope, but I have had a few people talk their way into jail when I had intended to give them a break to begin with.Dadiggla wrote:7075-T7 wrote:Well, if the "masses" are belittling, ganging up on, and making someone feel like they've offended the world. Then don't post and/or quit the forum, therefore they wouldn't be subject to such persecution. After all, they chose to post in the first place.Dadiggla wrote:I enjoyed reading and adding to the conversation. I saw your devil's advocate approach to be lively and could tell you were not making light of OP's wife's situation. Here we are talking about fundamental rights and when someone uses the right to express an opinion they are belittled, ganged up on and made to feel like they've offended the world. Some opinions are not popular but seeing another's perspective through debate is good for progress...sometimes the masses forget that.
you sound just like TSA.
We're on the same page as far as that goes.
My point is that if you have a problem with the TSA screener, talk to his / her supervisor or write a letter to TSA, your congressman, the newspaper, God and everybody. Getting nasty with the screener will not change the policy but may cause you extra hassle.
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- Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:04 pm
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- Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:02 pm
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We all know we are free to move from state to state unmolested. Once you choose a mode of transportation that YOU do not own you are subjecting yourself to the rules of that carrier. IE...no smoking. Foul language. No weapons. Your individual rights do not supersede mine. With that said if United, AA, Delta etc allow these procedures in order to safeguard their business(because that's all it really comes down to is money) you volunteer to random or pin pointed search of your person and or property. You don't have to fly, therefore you don't have to fly. A business has the right to refuse service to anyone. You have the right to pursue a pilots license and buy your own plane.
- Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:48 pm
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7075-T7 wrote:Well, if the "masses" are belittling, ganging up on, and making someone feel like they've offended the world. Then don't post and/or quit the forum, therefore they wouldn't be subject to such persecution. After all, they chose to post in the first place.Dadiggla wrote:I enjoyed reading and adding to the conversation. I saw your devil's advocate approach to be lively and could tell you were not making light of OP's wife's situation. Here we are talking about fundamental rights and when someone uses the right to express an opinion they are belittled, ganged up on and made to feel like they've offended the world. Some opinions are not popular but seeing another's perspective through debate is good for progress...sometimes the masses forget that.
you sound just like TSA.- Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:58 am
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I enjoyed reading and adding to the conversation. I saw your devil's advocate approach to be lively and could tell you were not making light of OP's wife's situation. Here we are talking about fundamental rights and when someone uses the right to express an opinion they are belittled, ganged up on and made to feel like they've offended the world. Some opinions are not popular but seeing another's perspective through debate is good for progress...sometimes the masses forget that.
- Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:03 am
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No. When I have an issue with something and feel strong enough about it, I will go the appropriate source.7075-T7 wrote: Can I assume that you never complain about the price of gas because you choose to drive a car instead of walk?
Or that the tolways are owned by a private company and will never be paid off because you choose to drive on them?
Or that you disagree with any government policy, tax, law, or otherwie because you choose to live in the USA?
Whether they listen or not are 2 different things.
Like some of the things you just mentioned. BUT, you wont see me yelling at the gas station cashier or toll collector.
Or the LEO that gave me a no seat belt ticket. They're just doing what they are paid to. That was my WHOLE point.
I just refuse to accept the berating of a TSA employee that is just following a procedure.(Not using the instance that begun this thread but in general)
From what Ive seen they are curtious and professional people doing a job.
When enough people stop flying, the industry will want to know why...bet you the rules will change then.
- Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:59 am
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Point taken. You choose to fly a commercial flight, so do you.Bullwhip wrote:Take the job, you take everthing that comes eith it.Dadiggla wrote:Ive been witness to this in my MANY flights to and fro the last few years. And one thing I do notice is that "we"(general public) are taking our frustration out on the wrong people. TSA screeners really are "Just doing their job". They dont make policies or rules.
- Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:23 am
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My point was this. Having a hissy fit at the gate will not help that individual get thru any faster. And like you said terrorist dont try to stand out. But throwing a fit could possibly allow something potentially dangerous to be missed. People these days are EXTREMELY rude. I keep reading "law-abiding citizen" like thats some kind of badge to disrespect employees everytime someone doesnt agree with a rule being enforced that the enforcer has absolutely ZERO control over.7075-T7 wrote:In many other industries, that's known as a bad employee, and are reprimanded. Plus we all know the real terrorists are going to try and stand out as much as possible and draw special attention to themselves, so the frustrated law-abiding citizen who steps out of the tightly controlled lines is likely to be one.Dadiggla wrote:In turn this guy or gal who has been getting dirty looks and griped at all shift AND has the powers that be over their shoulders finally has had enough so being polite gets pushed to the side.
- Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:36 pm
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Ive been witness to this in my MANY flights to and fro the last few years. And one thing I do notice is that "we"(general public) are taking our frustration out on the wrong people. TSA screeners really are "Just doing their job". They dont make policies or rules. Same with leo's. Ive seen people get just plain nasty with screeners about a bag needing a double look for whatever reason. In turn this guy or gal who has been gettin dirty looks and griped at all shift AND has the powers that be over their shoulders finally has had enough so being polite gets pushed to the side. They are only people and when push comes to shove are gonna say "to hell with it, let the others search you." By then 9 times out of 10 the person with the issue has been reported as hostile already...enter the heavy handed attitude TSA person. Most of them are there to earn a living like anybody else. Just my opinion based on my experiences but I can definitely relate to your anger tho.