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by JALLEN
Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
Replies: 440
Views: 73195

Re: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........

mojo84 wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
People often have an expanded view of their rights these days, not always compatible with law or reality.

It's the age of narcissistic entitlement. :mad5
as well as the abolishing of shame.

In my childhood, the worst thing often was, said in abject disgust, "You ought to be ashamed of yourself!" and often we were. You comported yourself in hope of avoiding being ashamed of yourself, usually, or strived to do so.

Shame is getting to be like dinosaurs. You hardly ever see it anymore.
by JALLEN
Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:33 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
Replies: 440
Views: 73195

Re: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........

ScooterSissy wrote:
Right2Carry wrote: My opinion is that if you choose to open your doors to the public, you give up some of your property rights. Nobody is making these businesses open their doors to the public. Again if you want invite the public in you must accept the consequences. Just my .02 right or wrong.
To what degree do you feel those that open a business are giving up their rights?

Do those coming in get to exercise their free speech? I'm not even talking about racial stuff, how about "I came in to announce to your customers that your service is awful, and DQ has better sammiches"
To the extent that these are rights, exercisable at all times and places, there is a certain diminution. Those signs reading, "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" can no longer be regarded as absolutes. A business open to the public cannot refuse to serve persons on grounds of race, sex, sexual orientation, nationality, citizenship and other protected classifications. Equal protection and all that.

By the same token, nobody has the right of free speech, unfettered, at any time, at any place. The "fetters" are pretty loose, granted, but beyond which one does not have the right to go.

You have no right to be present in a business premises other than to conduct business with it. You can't take over a booth at McDonald's to use for your activities, not over the proprietor's objections anyway, or sit in my waiting room, when I had one, all day, charging your cell phone, logged into my, or your, Internet service and do as you please.

People often have an expanded view of their rights these days, not always compatible with law or reality.
by JALLEN
Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
Replies: 440
Views: 73195

Re: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........

The investment company I ran for more than 20 years owned real estate here in Texas leased to various fast food operators.

Whataburger was far and away the best of these. Dealing with them was invariably fair, reasonable, straight forward, cooperative and mutually beneficial, none of which I would say about the other big fast food chains we dealt with.

Texans value property owners rights and views as much as we value self defense and RKBA. That value combination expresses itself in our law. If a business decides to not permit open carry, I accept that. If they object to any carry, well I take my business elsewhere.

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